Can we calculate the real cost of damages to society?
Of late, a lot of number-crunching has been going on, especially before and after the court decided to confiscate Bt46 billion of former PM Thaksin Shinawatra's Bt76-billion frozen assets. A lot of people, be they trained in economics, law or even fields that are not remotely related to this subject, came up with different figures. In fact, some even said that Thaksin's greed and corruption had cost the country more than Bt100 billion in damages.
Last week, Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij suggested on Facebook that the court should have confiscated the entire Bt76 billion.
However, Korn got himself into trouble when he said that he was not sure if justice would have been served if the Assets Examination Committee had not been appointed after the 2006 military coup. This statement instigated a flurry of comments criticising the minister for being a supporter of the coup, an accusation he quickly denied though he kept quiet after some papers, such as the Daily News, published editorials on Saturday lambasting Korn.
However, when it comes to assessing the damage done through corruption and unconstitutional political acts, many Thais are still viewing things rather too narrowly.
So, while many people continue working out how much society has lost financially thanks to Thaksin, one also needs to ask: "What should the society pay for supporting a military coup and using it as a 'legitimate' way to dealt with Thaksin?"
Can we put a number to this?
The costs and damages incurred on a society can never be quantified. How can one come up with a neat figure when the society decides to back a military coup as a legitimate way of dealing with a corrupt politician when the result, intentional or not, is giving the military carte blanche to continue staging coups with no end in sight?
Calculating the cost of damages incurred by the anti-Thaksin People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) movement's 2008 seizure of the Suvarnabhumi airport is no easy task either because not only did it affect short-term tourism it also hurt Thailand's reputation as a regional travel hub.
Similarly, the Songkran mayhem last year didn't just affect the economy, but also cost the society in terms of the loss of trust in the red shirts.
However, the biggest price the Thai society is paying, after four years of often lawless and vicious political battles, is a loss of trust in those who dare to think differently.
During the telephone chat this writer had with red-shirt leader Jaran Dittha-apichai on Monday, he realised that the deep-seated mistrust expressed by Jaran was symptomatic of the high cost the society is paying.
As for the likelihood of the government imposing the Internal Security Act (ISA) this weekend to deal with the attempt to shut down Bangkok, Jaran said: "In other countries, people ask why the government should impose such a law, but in Thailand they ask why the red shirts should demonstrate. It's upside down."
On mainstream mass media, he said: "Most of the mass media view us as enemies, but we won't budge because most of the people are with us. Most of the red shirts do not read [or watch or listen to] them."
As for Bangkokians being inconvenienced by the shutting down of the city, Jaran said: "The residents can curse all they want. The PAD never thought of them, did they?"
Pravit's note: The writer received an e-mail letter from Khun Korn Chatikavanij today correctly pointing out that he did not stated in his recent Facebook article that the Supreme Court "should" have confiscated the entire Bt76 billion of Thaksin's frozen assets but rather that he wrote that "it was what I would have done" if he was a judge.
Khun Korn also pointed out that although he was criticised for his statement questioning whether justice would have been served or not if the Asset Examination Committee had not been appointed after the 2006 coup, he also received, as he puts it, "more than equal number of acknowledgement for my willingness to engage in sensible debate through an honest assessment of the facts."
This writer would like to publicly apologise to the Finance Minister for the inaccuracies in the article but would also like to ask whether what one should make of public figures who did not strongly oppose the 2006 coup. Does not condemning the coup outright in the aftermath of the coup make them closet-supporters of the coup?
A lot of readings into what Khun Korn wrote on Facebook may have something to do with this.
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Last week, Finance Minister
Last week, Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij suggested on Facebook that the court should have confiscated the entire Bt76 billion.
Is there any reason to believe that any of the other sino-thai fortunes, the Chatikavanij's for instance, were made in any other fashion than the Shinawatra's?
In the "good old days" the Shinawatras were tax-farmers who paid "the powers that were" in Bangkok a hefty price for the "right" to extract all of that and as much more as they could possibly steal from the residents of Lanna.
I have no special information on any of the "elite" fortunes in Thailand, yet I have no reason to believe the provenance of those other fortunes was in any way different from the Shinawatra's.
I think that Ji Ungpakorn has the correct line on this one. What's good for the Shianawatras is good for the Chatikavanijs and for all the rest of the "elite".
What was Ji's phrase? ah yes... "Seize it all!! The palaces, the shares, the diamonds, all the ill-gotten gains!"
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. It is not just Thaksin whose crooked goose is now cooked.
But that is just chasing down the spoils of what remains of what was at the outset the least profit for the smallest number...
"What should the society pay for supporting a military coup and using it as a 'legitimate' way to dealt with Thaksin?"
Now we're getting at the real Faustian bargain and the Devil's Real Due.
When I look back at 11 September 2001, for instance, horrific though those mass murders were... has not the rest of the last decade, the self-inflicting aftermath of that mass murder been a thousand, or ten thousand, times worse?
I think there is no question of it.
And I think the same must be said in the aftermath of 19 September 2006.
Everything that happened in
Everything that happened in Thai politics from late 2005 is a price to pay for Thaksin's corruption. The early anti-Thaksin rallies, closure of Paragon, failed elections, court cases, coup, increased military budget in exchange for support, new constitution, new elections, new round of anti-Thaksin rallies, government house occupation, airport closure, Pattaya and Songkran riots and so on. They should have actually booted him out in 2001 for asset concealment.
On the other hand, the society learned lots of valuable lessons from each and every event during this past decade. Trying to express it in monetary terms is indeed narrow.
I think it is correct to say
I think it is correct to say that Thaksin should have been booted out in 2001 for asset concealment. Oh, so many things should have or should not have occurred.
I think that blaming Thaksin for the coup and its aftermath is absurd... and it reminds me of the fury raised in my dear mother's eyes at my one attempt to blame my actions on another who "made me do it". In consequence I have not tried that ploy myself since my age broke into double digits, although others still do attempt it, I notice. I guess their own mothers never explained to them the meaning of personal responsibility for one's own actions.
I do hope that society has learned that Military coups are certainly the root of all evil here in Thailand, that democracy is easy to lose and hard to reclaim, and I hope that once it has been reclaimed this time it will not so easily be tossed out with the bathwater the next time the babe has "an accident" in the tub.
Overall, I'm not a fan of
Overall, I'm not a fan of Thaksin, however his 'crimes' seem trifling in the Thai context.
His worst crime by far was allowing the drug war to continue once significant problems became apparent, but he's just one of many with blood on their hands in that saga.
Noble intentions do not negate the need for proper procedures and diligent adherence to standards - something a Midnight Oil's lead singer has hopefully also learned, but unfortunately politicians & bureaucrats everywhere seem to be very slow learners, particularly when it comes to having genuine humility.
btw, has Thaksin ever executed or 'signed off' on any military coups?
His worst crime by far was
His worst crime by far was allowing the drug war to continue once significant problems became apparent, but he's just one of many with blood on their hands in that saga.
According to my recollection Thaksin created his "war on drugs" all by himself, albeit inspired by "great policemen" of yesteryear... quoting Phao Siriyanon: “there is nothing under the sun that the Thai police cannot do”... in the aftermath of HM King Bhumipol's birthday speech bewailing the effects of Ya Ba on Thai society, on children in particular.
Thaksin was as "adept" at using King Bhumipol's charisma for his own purposes as is the present putsch.
If you can call the ensuing slaughter in any case in any way "adept".